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Monday, December 19, 2016

20 Practical Tips for Women in India to Negotiate Alimony


Art of Alimony Negotiation for Indian Women

The miscellany and cultural diversity in India is distinctive. The endless varieties of physical features and cultural patterns and many variants of languages make this subcontinent very complex land of multiple religions. The census of 1961 listed as many as 1,652 languages and dialects, the subsequent census regarded them as spurious and recognized 22 major languages. We find in India followers of various faith of which ~80% are Hindus, ~13% follow Islam while other 7% are followers of Christianity, Buddhism, Jainism etc…, wish this country was as simple as the followers of faith but unfortunately there is a wide spread caste system with not less than 3000 sub castes whose hierarchy is graded in different ways in different regions of India.

Right from our childhood we have been reading and learning about Unity in diversity a concept of "unity without uniformity and diversity without fragmentation" that shifts focus from unity based on a mere tolerance of physical, cultural, linguistic, social, religious, political, ideological and/or psychological differences towards a more complex unity based on an understanding, but alas, I just wish what we studied in the school is actually practiced in the families too. I feel sad to say, per my experience, forget the unity of the country there is no unity in the families today, the disagreement within the family members is growing at an alarming rate, the future generations will end up with antagonism, bitterness and discord which will be the new norm leading but nothing to more crime and social evils. The prominent few social evils faced by married women today are Dowry, Domestic Violence, Outraging the modesty, Sexual Harassment, Marital Rape, Adultery and Men deserting woman, Cruelty by husband and his family members which leads to but nothing Divorce, the guilty is often not punished and those behind bars may not be truly guilty.

88.4% marriages in India are arranged as per the statistics published by UNICEF Human Rights on August 16th 2016. Approximately 2.3% of marriages end in divorce, at least 78% causes for contested divorce in India are Dowry and Domestic Violence. One other trend I have personally observed is todays modern women wants to move on, the families and parents still hold back some grudge or vengeance and seek for punishment but the educated modern girl today knows that there is a long life and bright future ahead and does not want to waste time in prolonging the case and switches to fasten the proceedings through mutual consent. One of the very important element todays modern girl often ignores is her right for Alimony, either she settles for too less or the earnestness to get out of the suffering is too high that she foregoes her right. Words cannot explain the plight one goes thru the divorce proceedings, taking the first step to consult a lawyer or decide to get out of a relationship itself if practically impossible for the girl no matter how modernized the society is. We still live in a rigid caste based system and the fearing of what neighbours and society will talk about. Each community has its own personal laws derived from religious scriptures, customs and traditions and so the grounds on which a Hindu woman can seek divorce and alimony may not be the same for every community.

The Art of Alimony Negotiation
As per the law of the land, Alimony or Maintenance is a legal obligation on a person to provide financial support to their spouse before or after marital separation or divorce. In case of contested matters the Court intervenes to decide the matters related to alimony and maintenance to both wife and child on various merits of the case. A survey cited by India Today says 63 per cent of Indian women become dependent on their parents post-divorce, even as 88 per cent of the divorced men continue with the same lifestyle after divorce. Although the rule of thumb says 1/3rd of the husbands income and assets be taken into consideration there are other governing factors that can make the alimony amount high / low, a recent amendment in the law states the women is entitled for 50% of share in the husbands property acquired before or after marriage. The law is still unclear and ambiguous as it does not clearly define what amount of alimony / who / when / and how is the responsibility shared to up bring the children, often the child custody is granted to women and the struggle continues with raising inflation and cost of education / healthcare and other expenses. Unfortunately in India, there is no concept of joint marital assets, although scriptures call the husband and wife DAMPATI and prescribe to perform all duties and rites jointly when it comes to finances, assets, properties etc… it’s always male dominated.  In Hindu marriage act, both spouses can claim alimony from each other whereas the special marriage entitles only wife to claim the alimony. Alimony is mainly divided into four categories: temporary alimony, rehabilitative alimony, permanent alimony and reimbursement alimony….

I wish to highlight in this blog what Indian women need to in case of alimony negotiation and suggest go for an MOU and settle the matters out of court and seek mutual consent divorce after your needs are met :

1.    Ensure the cause for seeking divorce is very strong, there should be enough evidence on you been subjected to domestic violence and are a victim on cruelty by husband and his family

2.    Length of marriage plays a vital role in deciding the alimony amount, shorter marriages should focus on settling a one-time alimony instead of monthly maintenance

3.    Know what you exactly want, don’t just focus on the amount or assets; showcase your needs and the reason behind the demand (inflation, child’s education, your disability, current status and lifestyle, healthcare expenses etc…). Rank your priorities and put forth the top priority first and keep the meagre ones at the end

4.    Give time, there is nothing called “My Way of High Way”, negotiation process takes time, be patient and if required hire a professional who can negotiate on your behalf, take off your ego from the table. Don’t get into threatening and use the words like “Look what I will do … etc…” don’t label your behavior or offer options / choices for your husband to choose from. Remember buying time builds up tension; use this method very carefully but not often

5.    Statistics and Data are important, collect data on various assets, income doorways etc… of your spouse this will be a very handy piece of evidence during the negotiation process, use the data carefully after you have done all your homework Subtly nudging them toward your choice

6.    Women often are emotional and during the negotiations cry or burst out with anger, take control on your emotions and be cool, don’t get angry or cry, this shows your weakness, maintain the cool / composure during negotiation, keep in mind you are facing the problem and not the people although its people around you

7.    Educate the other party with facts and evidence, don’t simply stick to a number you have decided, showcase with data why you need this amount and the rationale behind the ask. State your case, clearly and completely. Change the benchmarks of good and bad, try Bring up new information you have found

8.    Don’t burn the bridges, keep the communication on… in many a cases women walk out of the negotiation table siting the humiliation, seek help from your counsel to negotiate on your behalf, New person can reset the rules and strengthen your value preposition, I often suggest Persuade one person at a time and then use them as allies

9.    Focus on WIN – win strategy, with a bigger WIN coming your way, discuss with your lawyer and do your complete homework without leaving any stone unturned, remember to brake one deal to smaller multiple deals swaying them your way.  If you just put across one big option then the chances of that ending up into an argument and killing time are high. Offer to agree in the half way position

10.  Don’t open up all options at one go, go slow and put your points and let the opposite party come up with his options before your further open up, remember to keep the process in your control, Offer to phase in or phase out the unpleasant bits and sometimes or act stupid to avoid cleaver stuff, catch the opposite party off the ground not expecting you to behave dumb

11.  Beyond currency or money are other assets too… (Stocks, Bonds, Mutual Funds, Property, Gold, Dividends, etc…) keep options open and don’t stick on a number, refuse to agree on the table immediately, say you are open to such a point but wait for the opposite party to put across more points.

12.  Although you are earning, try prove your point the need is beyond what you can sustain from your earnings, fall back on data and gather information ( for eg: all that you earn may end up paying rent and healthcare expenses of your parents, remember as per the new law amendment women are equally responsible to take care of their parents just like men)

13.  Remember, great negotiation is more about listening then about talking, once someone on the table says YES, then document the point and move on don’t argue further on that point

14.  When someone from the opposite party, it could be the husband or his family members or his counsel objects don’t argue or become defensive, instead ask for clarification, ask a WHY Question, you will be surprised if you ask “WHY” or ask data to prove the objection raised the opposite party will not be able to come up with an answer and you can prove your point then. Human psychology plays a vital role here, ask WHY and you can surprise the best negotiators on the table if they have not done their homework

15.  Remember while negotiation, one the important fact is to bear in mind is to craft your process in such a way that will make your husband defenceless, being with him after marriage you definitely know all his strengths and weakness, you also very well know his emotional buttons that when you press them right he agrees to your wants.

16.  Keep the discussions result oriented, its often seen during the negotiation process, old memories come up and the discussion sways more towards a new quarrel instead of point in focus and this indicates a bad publicity and lead into negative consequences.

17.  Remember to be wise and not smart, you need not show how smart you are, let him feel the pride but you need to be wise to ensure your wants are met, say you understand and empathize but don’t agree as your needs outweigh his situations. Suggest a solution and see if they can bite and push them up against the wall of time.

18.  Put your concerns on the table, in my personal experience I can confidently quote there will always be a family member from your spouse side who will sympathize with you, utilize him/her and try to influence the process by siting your concerns, although it’s your demand showcase as a concern and not ego driving the wants

19.  Avoid using “I” statements and instead use something like “We need to reach a resolution which is in favor of both of us adding speed to the process” One other tip which is very important is when you sit for negotiation is the art of speaking, Effective use of speech pauses is a master technique, the power of silence speaks volumes, don’t blabber your point and speak continuously, pauses convey your emotions, holds the attention of distracted audience and replace filler words. You can pause over a question, impactful sentence or a past memory that you quote. Step out and take a break, especially when you see things are getting out of your control, this will break the heat and the flow, come back and start with fresh mind.

20.  Engage with your body language, the body language and conduct during the negotiation process plays a vital role, many a time although you are enraged and uncomfortable put efforts to make yourself in composure drink water often during the negotiation, this will give your time. Not only will this aid your brain (by providing more oxygen), but your vocal quality will be enhanced by keeping your mouth and throat lubricated. The greatest leaders and influencers who speak often resort to this tip… if you observe our beloved prime minister during the interview process or when he is speaking takes a pause and drinks some water. Another psychology behind pausing and drinking water is to break and distract the thought process of the opposite party, break up their thinking and take charge.


While there is more to this subject, I believe the reader would benefit with the above 20 tips to strengthen your proposition. Feel free to write into me at lawyersonia@gmail.com and comment below on what you feel, You may wish to share your experience and add more tips per your experience by commenting on this post. 



Saturday, February 18, 2012

Law is in your hands…


It’s been a few years of practice and now falling back on most of the cases that I have seen / fought / read / won / lost … well whatever… its time that we as lawyers should start thinking about a social responsibility and take a step towards this… I am sure someone somewhere may be doing it in bits and pieces but I vow to do this big time urge to my co friends who are reading this blog to reach out to me if want to join in or support and help in this endeavor...


I was reading an article on Times of India about the Criminal behavior linked to Genes; you may also go thru this article following the link here http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2005-06-11/edit-page/27850346_1_behaviour-genes-traits  which says that criminal behavior is inherited and my argument is to curb this behavior by educating and counseling and creating awareness in the society both urban and rural right from the childhood.


My plan is as follows…


1. Make a list of schools and colleges in your vicinity


2. Reach out to the target audiences i.e.… the high school / college students


3. Meet the authorities and plan workshops showing the possible evils in the society and ways to overcome them using the help of Law and not taking the law in your own hands.


What I believe is during this adolescence age is when there are high possibilities that vengeance is born the trigger may be the new friend circle, sense of independence from the governance of parents, keenly participating in family matters and know more and more about family disputes if any, this is the time when an adolescent gets involved more openly in various activities in the society, media also leaves a great impression on children, this is the time when one gets more inclined towards sexual fantasies, well there can be a many more triggers that sow their seed during this age and over a period of time they grow like a big banyan tree with a roots hanging upside down from the mind that is already been corrupted.


If I as a lawyer can return back something to the society, I sincerely would like to participate and lead such workshops and quick talks to help the next generation understand their rights, know the law and use it their advantage instead of an abuse…


If any school / college / NGO would like to reach out to me please email me at lawyersonia@gmail.com  

Friday, December 30, 2011

How to get a Marriage Certificate in Bangalore


Very soon it’s going to be mandatory document, for including your spouse's name in the ration card and no employer can offer a job to any married individual without verifying his/her marriage certificate.


These are some of the guidelines laid down by the Karnataka government in its draft legislation on making marriage registration compulsory in the state. The government has now sought the legal opinion of the National Law School of India University (NLSIU) before finalizing the legislation.


After Maharashtra and Kerala, Karnataka will be the third state to take this step. All this started was to curb the fake marriage bureaus involved in trafficking of women to Dubai or other countries in the name of marriage. What I have noticed while handling many a cases is absence of this vital document makes it very difficult to file a case against a groom who has troubled her bride, cases of women harassment or violence against women has become very high now a days, while there are many fake cases filed only to trouble the poor husbands but there are few genuine cases too where in the husbands and the lawyers at the other end start the argument stating this women is not married to the guy at all… what a pity… !


Thinking compensation is a farfetched there are instances where these girls can’t file an fir in the absence of an official document supporting their marriage in some cases…, few women organizations that I interact with also show their helplessness in taking any action in such cases where girls elope and then land in trouble in case of husbands running away or absconding after a period of time or instances where men have married to two girls… one in the community and the other where the girl has eloped there is no evidence to prove if there was a marriage done at all…


Violence or harassment cases apart… There are instances cases where girls cannot claim the property left behind by their husbands in case of his demise and the only reason being there is no evidence of their marriage being on records…. In case there is no evidence inform of any other document or videos or photographs which then need to be proved to be true in the court and by then months or years would have passed away…. I have seen instances where the woman becomes a widow; the family members of the husband simply disown the woman and excuse her of all rights to inherit any of the husband’s wealth.


The 1955 Hindu marriage act does not make it mandatory to register the marriage but section 8(2) has made provisions to the state government to make marriage registrations mandatory and so have Maharashtra and Kerala taken full advantage of this section and now hope Karnataka too walks this way.


People think it’s difficult to make this certificate… or many of them with whom I speak too tell it’s a time consuming process or there are grey areas which we are not aware on how to get the certificate done. There are two approaches that I suggest…


1. Approach a lawyer and he/she will facilitate and get this certificate done for you

2. Read the rest of the blog and you can do it on your own.


Here are the steps to get the certificate


a. Visit the nearest sub registrar office in your area of residence


b. You will find an application form either in the sub registrar office itself or just next to the sub registrar office there will be a Xerox shop where you can get this form. This is a green color paper form which cost you Rs. 10/-


c. Fill in the details in the form, if there is a name change of the bride after the marriage ensures you write the new name and not the old name which was printed on the wedding card.


d. You need this form to be signed by three Witness, could be your relatives or friends


e. Eight additional documents (Original and one Photocopy each of age, id, name change proof) required to be submitted with the form are as follows


    I. 2B size six (6) Photographs of the couple with a blue or white background
    II. One wedding photograph
    III. One Wedding Card
    IV. One Identity proof for both bride and groom (Pan Card or Voter ID etc…)
    V. One Address proof of the husband,(Passport, DL, Tele Bill, Ration Card, Aadhar Card)
    VI. Age Proof (10th Std. Marks card or Passport)
    VII. Affidavit in case of name change of the bride after marriage
    VIII. Photocopy of the newspaper where the name change info was published


f. After the form is filled you need to meet the desk clerk at the sub registrar office who will verify for the information and see if something is missing, he will then ask you to reach another window where a Data entry operator will fill in the information you have provided in the application from to the computer and provide you 6 printouts which you need to bring it back to the desk clerk.


g. The desk clerk will then ask his assistant to affix the 2B size photographs to the printouts and then will attest the photocopies and attach the wedding photograph, wedding card and other documents you provided to the application from.


h. You and your spouse need to sign on all the six printouts such a way where half of the signature appears on the photograph and the other half on the paper.


i. After this steps is completed, the clerk then asks the peon or his assistant to take the copies to the registrar and collect final stamp and sign.


j. The sub registrar’s office will retain four copies and hand over one copy of this document to you and one copy to your spouse.


k. Two original certificates are given one to the boy and one to the girl wishing them a happy married life and the clerk advices that they should hold this copy if they have to claim any stake or in case of any dispute that will need legal action, he also advices in case you have lost or misplaced the certificate please visit back to the sub registrar’s office and the needful be done.


l. There will be a fees collected by the sub registrar to complete the certification  


Note: In case of Intercaste Marriage, or NRI Marriage, or Marriage between citizens of two different nationals the time taken to complete the process of fetching the marriage certificate is 30 days. Additional documentation and proofs are required depending on the country and religion ones comes from. 

So friends … after reading this blog if you have any more questions or doubts you may wish to reach me on my mail id at lawyersonia@gmail.com and I will reply back to you. 

If any assistance from my end is required you may wish to fix an appointment with me and reach me at my residence or office.


Wish you a happy married life.

Thursday, March 11, 2010

The Divorce Petition

Well begun is half done…
"If you have a good beginning, you are quite likely going to have a great outcome.”

50% of the battle is won on the basis of the good drafting of the Divorce Petition. I have spent hours together on understanding the best way to draft a petition. We use all of our divorce expertise in drafting of the Petition and lay a strong foundation for the entire contested divorce case… fortunately or unfortunately the computer era has made it much easy to use a template and fill in the blanks… and in few minutes a draft is ready….

I strongly go against this practice… and also recommend folks who are reading my blog and if you are an advocate… take this as a lesson learnt from my past experience … don’t fill in a template and file a divorce case…

I believe, every case is unique in itself, every client who comes to you has a unique problem, it’s the first time for a client that he/she is going thru a disturbed marriage. There can be various ways to understand the big picture. We just cant classify all cases of domestic violence to be the same like husband is abusive towards the wife… you listen to the client and use a template that has few statements on physical abuse and verbal abuse etc… and write a draft…

My success has been when I am with the client and understand in detail what she is speaking, listen, see and feel what she is going thru, empathize with her and to the very best explain her what options she has and let her chose the best. Be honest and tell her the truth… explain her what all are the things that will happen after a case is field and the duration and court proceedings. We all know the judiciary… its not magic things will not get resolved in a day or two it takes time… counsel your client and give more than a 100% assurance of effort that you will put in from your side and need a 100% support from the client.

Divorce is not a simple issue its multifarious and complex, hard-core emotions are involved in it, clients when speak to me they sometimes get angry, annoyed, cry etc… its very important to be with them and assure your complete support. Unlike other cases I have seen in my early days of practice a Divorce case is not a dispute for generating revenue or income but a personal battle fought in the Court to get justice.

Drafting a petition is a very crucial and an important stage and it should be effective. Effective drafting involves lot of concentration to every word that your client had shared with you and a lot of effort needs to be put in balancing the legal and personal interest of clients, it takes time and practice, I should have drafted more than a 100 petitions to get a one best after a lot of review.
One other interesting experience of mine that I wish to share in this blog… we often interpret things in a very different way the client has shared with us. We go adding few of our own things and make it a masala mixture that the client may have never experienced in her life. Just to make the case strong we may write something that has never happened. Despite the fact that you are an excellent in your communication skills, its significant to have true issues arising out of genuine facts so that it should make one understand that you have just not filled in the blanks of a ready made divorce petition template or one standard form of Divorce Petition.


You can rely on my experience in getting divorce Petition drafted that is a resonance your true emotions !!!!!

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